This post gives a prelude on my perspective (and a highlight in Parliament where Mr Low Thia Khiang seemed to have self-pwn’d) on the recent brouhaha on whether our Deputy Prime Minister-cum-Home Affairs Minister should quit. Strangely enough, no one seem to like to read the "Perspective" section in this blog – if the number of pongs is anything to go by. Well, I guess serious stuffs with non-juicy titles are really hard to get pongs, aren’t they?

Anyway, apparently Mr Low Thia Khiang threw a question at PM Lee if the latter would clarify on the principle in which the Government applied in looking at salary of the minister pitching to corporate world vis-a-vis when it comes to accountability and responsibility.

Here, if I may translate loosely, it’s indirectly hinting at the question "highly paid personnel in corporate organizations are fired when they make a mistake, shouldn’t this apply to ministers in the Government?" or if you still don’t get, it probably means "shouldn’t DPM Wong be fired for the escape of Mas Selamat?"

To which, PM Lee returned the question and asked if Mr Low thinks that DPM Wong should be fired because of this incident… it’s like…

In school

Your teacher made a mistake, say, in giving wrong marks, or failing someone by mistake, or failing to ensure the safety of some student, or letting some students play truant… and your principal asks you "do you think your teacher should be fired?" and holds a cane menacingly.

In work

Your boss made a mistake and failed to secure a deal and your boss’ boss asks if you would like your boss to be fired? Or in another scenario, your sales department fails to close a major deal and your CEO announces it during some general meeting and he asking you if you think that the sales manager should be fired.

At home

Your father’s sister’s husband’s sister’s husband’s brother failed to look after their Rott Weiler and one of them escaped (and possibly going around and biting people) and your father asks you if you think that his sister’s husband’s sister’s husband’s brother should be kicked out of the family clan…

It’s like… duh…

Does Low think Wong Kan Seng should quit?

MR LOW THIA KHIANG: A lot of people, including myself, cannot reconcile the principle which the Government applied in looking at salary of the minister pitching to corporate world vis-a-vis when it comes to accountability and responsibility. Would the PM clarify?

PM LEE: I thought the member would eventually come to this question…

I have to make a judgment who is responsible at what level, and I’ve discussed this with the DPM and I agree with his judgment and I have confidence in him.

The DPM was here, the member yesterday had full opportunity to question him…If any questions showed that the DPM was not up to this, that he was to blame, he gave the wrong instructions, he told people not to grille up the window, he suggested that we didn’t need so much fencing, therefore this happened, he (Mr Low) should have raised it.

Nothing happened.

Today the member comes around and throws a general cloud and says you’re well paid, you should resign.

Let me ask the member whether he thinks the DPM ought to resign because of this?

(Pause. Mr Low remains silent and does not answer.)

No answer.

So I think that settles the point.

Article obtained from on 23rd April 2008

Reader's Comments

  1. xizor2000 | April 23rd, 2008 at 8:42 am

    zomgbbqwtf?! Let’s have a Homer Simpson moment here looking at the 3 examples…


    Keep this up, Baby Lee and not very long will we put you around the likes of George W. Bush for intelligence – or rather the lack of – comparisons.

  2. anonymous | April 23rd, 2008 at 9:06 am

    hahahahaahahaha low made a fool of himself again!!!!!!!

  3. Tianhong | April 23rd, 2008 at 12:10 pm

    hmmm tt should be self-pawned. pm lee is really one level up. *pray to him*

  4. patriot | April 23rd, 2008 at 12:43 pm

    MP Low Thia Khiang has provided the GREATEST ANTI CLIMAX in any Parliament Debate!

  5. patriot | April 23rd, 2008 at 12:45 pm

    MP Low Thia Khiang has provided the GREATEST ANTI CLIMAX in any Parliament Debate! Disappointing!

  6. COI report: Reactions from the Internet « theonlinecitizen | April 23rd, 2008 at 1:39 pm

    […] Surf – Latest News Adding A Foreign Flavour To Singapore Schools (Part 1)Spot The IronyEr… A Highlight In Parliament (Mr Low Thia Khiang Self-pwned?)?Exclusivity Of Cab Services May Lead To Social IssuesMalaysia-Singapore Bullet Train Dead In Its […]

  7. Aaron | April 23rd, 2008 at 6:30 pm


    He should have expected that Mr Lee or his staff would have long anticipated and prepared this question.

    Guess this shows that the opposition is really a one man island.

  8. xizor2000 | April 23rd, 2008 at 8:29 pm

    When a rogue trader caused a 7 bln loss in Soc Gen, the CEO offered to resign.

    And going by Baby Lee’s argument the CEO would have nothing to do with the rogue trades this guy has done and so should not be responsible for it. In the future CEOs drawing equivalent or more pay like those of our $3 mln millions should use this as a precedence to justify their refusal to resign.

    Still, I applaud the SocGen CEO for his moral courage, even if it may just be a show between him and the board of directors to appease the general public.

  9. Tax-payer | April 23rd, 2008 at 8:52 pm

    I ave to say that the point LowTK brought up about pay was something that came as a reminder to us all….

    And that may give the Mnisters no face to increase their pay a 3rd time!!!

    Let’s see if the PM can still call pay increment this time round!

  10. Jeff | April 24th, 2008 at 12:21 am

    Clever for Low not to answer.
    It was a question he posted for PM and he does not owe the PM and answer for repeating the very same question.

    Frankly, WKS wouldn’t be in this sorry state today if :
    1) He apologised ….PROPERLY.
    2) He stopped trying to behave so arrogantly, at least appear to show remorse.
    3) The govt stopped being so defensive and reactive when the opposition posed questions (cause its the same questions that the people are asking).

    For me, I’m willing and waiting to forgive, but can’t do so without an apology.

    It’s no longer about what mistakes were made or who made them. It’s about poor leadership and lack of humility. I have lost respect.

  11. Onlooker | April 24th, 2008 at 2:50 am

    Who cares so long The appropriate punishment :hint PAYCUT for those involve is processed.
    How come i have a nagging feeling about 2006 something about an AWOL gomez to swiss?
    Must be the Cheese.

  12. Retribution | April 24th, 2008 at 9:33 am

    From this grave blunder, I can see the beauty of Mother Nature’s law of retribution.

    In 2006, Gomez was nearly “strangled to death” just because of a CCTV.

    Now, just less than 2 years later, the someone who used the CCTV as a weapon to “kill” Gomez, is haunted by NOT having a CCTV!

    Retribution comes so fast! Hahahaha …

  13. Alex | April 24th, 2008 at 12:31 pm

    Ha ha ha!!!! Low tio pwned by Lee Hsien Loong1

  14. Alex | April 24th, 2008 at 12:33 pm

    first low smacked himself!!!! then, kenna pwned!!! no word to say!!!

  15. GeekyCoder | April 24th, 2008 at 3:55 pm

    The more the PM preached his “words of wisdom”, the more he disgrace himself and the entire government.

    “he suggested that we didn’t need so much fencing, therefore this happened, he (Mr Low) should have raised it.”

    How can someone like Mr Low and other can even raised issues and examine any security policy when they are not even allowed access into confidential information and in the highly secretive and inepted detention centre ?

    This has been going on over and over again, challenging opposition party to do something that impossible as the government restrict access to crucial information or facility.

    I suggest the PM stop embarrass Singapore for goodness sake. The world is looking at us.

  16. Zhanzhao | April 28th, 2008 at 12:48 pm

    Thought it was already painfully obvious that the only one being embarrassed here was Mr Low…

    Not a good idea to spar with Jr Lee…. he’s after all been trained by You Know Whoo 😉

Leave a Comment

%d bloggers like this: